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Health Coach Institute (BHC Program): an honest review

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I graduated with a health coach certification from Health Coach Institute (HCI) in October 2017. I completed the Become a Health Coach (BHC) program, beginning in May 2017. I also attended their November 2017 HCI Live event in Dallas, Texas. I also completed part of the HCI “Advanced Nutrition for Health Coaches” training and some of the Life Coach certification training. I did not finish either of those, however, because I am no longer interested in pursuing this as a career. However, I was employed as a health coach and worked with a small handful of private clients, so I do have professional experience to speak from.

This is my honest and personal review of my entire experience with the HCI BHC program, including:

  • Cost and value
  • Accreditation and certification
  • Content- what you learn
  • Skills labs, coaching practice, and success calls
  • Overall learning experience
  • HCI Live event experience
  • Summary of pros and cons

…as well as specific and practical suggestions for those considering a pivot into health coaching. I also include helpful reading suggestions throughout this post for those not yet ready to commit the time or money required to become a certified health coach.

NOTE: If you have any questions or comments about BHC or HCI after reading this post, please leave a comment below and I will answer ASAP, even if by the time you read this it’s been several months or years since I wrote the review. I am very happy to answer any questions or help you make this decision, as I would have loved that guidance when I made the decision. Same goes for my thorough and honest review of the eCornell Plant-Based Nutrition certification, which I still get questions and comments on to this day.

Let’s begin!

COST AND VALUE

The total cost of the program is $4,500. They advertise $5,000 but when I signed up there was a $500 discount for paying up front. If something like that doesn’t exist right now and you are interested in completing a certification through Health Coach Institute, use my HCI BHC referral code: 6RFFX4YR. Bottom line: don’t pay full price.

As for the value of the cost: personally, I think it’s not there. The training, which I will get into in greater detail soon, is extremely mediocre and borderline bad at times.

The program lasts 6 months, with content delivered one week at a time, but you can take up to one year to complete it. I finished in 6 months, so I essentially paid $750 per month. Looking back, knowing what I know now, I would have never paid $750 per month for what I received. Keep reading for specifics on that. Please also keep in mind this is all my personal opinion and experience. There are some excellent helpful comments below that share other perspectives.

ACCREDITATION AND CERTIFICATION

I graduated in October 2017 (despite the November date they printed on my certification) and it is now January 2018 and I have still not received my hard copy certification in the mail. [update: I finally received the cardstock certification mid-April 2018. It was smaller than a normal piece of paper. The date printed on it was January (the digital copy below says November), about 3 months after I actually graduated]

It took a month after certification before I decided to contact them about this, wondering where it was, and it was then brought to my attention that it was my responsibility to contact them for my certification. They did not automatically send it, even though my account shows that I completed everything. This was super annoying.

The paper doesn’t actually matter though. Neither does their PDF version of the certification, which looks like this:

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In the real world, as I have since learned, nobody cares if you have this certification or not. There is currently no law saying you have to be certified to practice as a health coach. It can add some credibility in some circumstances, but like a college degree, nobody is going to ask you to prove that you have it. When I worked as a health coach for a local nonprofit, they verbally asked me if I had gone through any training, I said yes, and that was the end of it.

HCI is accredited by CCE, which adds additional credibility to the training. However, unless you plan to take the exam to become a CPC (Certified Professional Coach), this does not matter either.

With that said, if you are very serious about entering this career and hope to make a living as a coach, it probably doesn’t hurt having the accreditation behind you. But it alone isn’t worth the price tag of this program.

CONTENT – WHAT YOU LEARN

The entire program is 100% online. The program is broken up into 4 “pillars.” Each pillar is further broken up into weeks. There is a multiple choice exam at the end of each pillar. Each exam is excruciatingly easy.

Here is a screenshot of what the online learning environment looks like. All lectures are powerpoint-style slides with a voiceover. If you’re like me and prefer people to get to the point, you can watch all videos in 1.5x or 2x speed. Thank God.

BHC homepage

Pillar 1 is Nutrition for Health Coaches. It is 6 weeks with an additional 1 “bonus week” material.

When I enrolled in BHC, I thought I would learn the actual science behind nutrition. Instead, BHC teaches more about “how” to eat, or “who you are” when you’re eating. Tips like drink water, chew your food, take deep breaths, etc, fill this pillar. Very little actual nutrition information is given. My biggest mistake was probably going into this whole program with high expectations.

One thing I did not like about this pillar (ok, basically everything) was how it also included some straight up pseudoscience. The only dietary theories explored were “Blood Type Theory” (which in my opinion is total bullshit) and some other theory I can’t remember right now, but which was also really stupid.

The entire premise of “nutrition for health coaches” is that there is no one-size-fits-all diet and that everybody is different, so we need to use our intuition to figure out what’s best for our unique body. Beyond that, very little nutrition information was given. I found this very frustrating because they were basically saying it’s ok to eat anything in any quantity, as long as you feel good doing it. Cocaine feels fucking fantastic and you can even lose weight doing it, but that doesn’t make it good for you! However much I agree with the idea that there is no one-size-fits-all solution, their logic was flawed and they should have provided more science and research.

Each pillar comes with a plethora of handouts, some useful and others not. Here is a screenshot of the handouts section, each available in PDF and DOC formats. You can see the titles of some of the handouts. The very gimmicky handouts like “secret 7” and “how to learn 100 dietary theories in 10 minutes” were very silly. So much garbage material here. I did not end up keeping or using any of it. Most of the handouts were fluff.

pillar one handouts

Basically, all the “nutrition” information boils down to a few key bullet points:

  • Eat fat and protein with every meal to keep blood sugar balanced
  • Eat when you’re hungry, stop when you’re full, and chew your food
  • Drink water
  • Try not to eat a lot of processed food or too much sugar
  • Be nice to yourself and don’t stress

Other than that, you are expected to experiment and figure out what is best for your body. Personally, I think this is a very lackluster nutrition education. Neither of the teachers, Carey and Stacey, is a scientist, dietician, nutritionist, or otherwise really qualified to teach this stuff, so it makes sense that their “science” was rocky at times and they had a slight “woo woo” undertone to most of what they delivered. Personally, that’s just not my style.

Also, for anyone who is plant-based, vegan, or vegetarian, let’s just say you will disagree with most of what they teach. HCI seems to consider ALL diets valid. I find this problematic. (Read my eCornell Plant-Based Nutrition Certification: an honest review)

Overall, I was extremely disappointed with this pillar.

Pillar 2 is Transformational Coaching Skills. Pillar 2 is 14 long weeks, also with “bonus week” material.

Since I already had a pretty strong nutrition background coming into this program, this was the part of BHC that I was most excited about. BHC promises to teach you the psychology of habit change and really focus on the brain science behind why we do what we do and how to “hack” that to get results for our health. It also promises to teach you how to coach. Sounds great, right?

Unfortunately, BHC did not deliver on any of that (Instead, I recommend you read The Willpower Instinct if this topic interests you). The entirety of pillar 2 was a step-by-step walkthrough of their “90-day Total Transformation” program, a gimmicky program they continually say is what helped Carey build her “six-figure coaching business.”

The done-for-you program would be perfect for someone trying to lose weight who is more of a “feeler” type than “thinker” type. It was very flowery and loaded with manipulative “seeding” marketing crap to try to upsell your client on more services later. Not impressed with that. There were entire sessions whose sole purpose was to coax your client into signing up for more sessions with you, not benefit your client. There was also a lot of weird borderline spiritual shit that just didn’t resonate with me.

Pillar 2 is really just “how to deliver session X.” It’s just a bunch of scripts that are sometimes poorly worded, poorly formatted, and completely unrelated to any health concern other than weight loss. The 90-day program is 12 weeks, so we learned 12 scripts. There is also one “Closing The Deal” script, which you deliver before the 90-day program. Its purpose is to sell your services and gain clients. Useful skills, but it shouldn’t have been the bulk of what we learned.

As for the psychology of habit change and neuroscience, those were practically nonexistent as well (Read The Power of Habit for great information on that). Pillar 2 did not go into “how” to coach either. It focused solely on their specific scripts. I’d consider BHC an extremely basic education.

The pillar 2 bonus material was a handy question guide though, which was probably the most (if only) useful handout in the entire program. Here it is, for free:

silver bullet

Those are the basic coaching questions you learn. Pillar 2 can basically be broken down into a few bullet points. None of this was said explicitly (annoying, because in my opinion, explicit info like this would have been very helpful), but it’s more or less what I gathered from the scripts:

  • Don’t ask “why” questions
  • Dig deep with your client–keep asking questions until you get to an emotional trigger
  • Don’t give advice- your client intrinsically knows the answer for themselves
  • Don’t talk about yourself in a session- coaching is all about your client

Pillar 2 was very disappointing, considering it was just a bunch of shitty scripts that only applied to weight loss.

They emphasized how you should listen to your client’s needs though, and go off script when necessary. However, they give no help on how to do that. They don’t actually teach you how to coach or what kinds of questions to ask (other than the handout above, which they didn’t give until the very end AFTER you’d already delivered the 90-day program to your practice clients). Again, they just teach scripts. Lame.

Pillar 3 is Personal Growth. It is 5 weeks long.

This pillar was actually kind of interesting, however, if you’ve ever read any self-help book ever, it was nothing new. Here is a screenshot of the available handouts, which summarize what you learn pretty well:

pillar 3

The problem with pillar 3 was that they talked about overcoming your negative relationship with money a LOT. This is definitely a helpful topic to explore (if it applies to you), but it was very clear what they were doing: seeding you to buy their “Master” program! They even said so, several times, how you should “invest” in yourself by furthering your training. So in my opinion, pillar 3 was like this huge sales pitch for their next level course.

Speaking about that, this is a tactic they used throughout the entire program. They’d say things like “this is a very advanced technique, but you will learn about it in our advanced master training…” Barf.

It got kind of exhausting hearing about how much money Carey made in her “six-figure coaching business” and how we would learn all the “advanced coaching techniques” in their master training. It made the whole program feel very gimmicky, like I’d paid $4,500 for a 6-month sales pitch for a $12k program (a program I obviously did not sign up for because screw HCI).

Pillar 4 is Proven Marketing and Business Systems. It is 6 weeks and optional for graduation.

This turned out to be the best pillar of them all! Here is a screenshot of what you learn in this pillar:

pillar 4

Since I have a strong marketing, business, and sales background, nothing in this pillar was new to me, but I was able to recognize how valuable it is for those who have no business or marketing experience. (Read Wellpreneur if you want modern business/marketing info)

The only annoying thing about it was they kept saying how great it was and how “no other training program teaches you this.” Carey and Stacey are very self-congratulatory people and after 6 months, you really want them to shut the fuck up about it.

SKILLS LABS, COACHING PRACTICE, AND SUCCESS CALLS

Every week of the training, you had to complete a “skills lab” call with another student. You find your skills lab partner either online in the learning portal (I never did this) or in the private Facebook group (this is where most people talked). Each week the skills lab was different and you could work with a different partner if you wanted to.

For the first pillar, the skills labs were more or less conversations about what you’d “learned,” but using awkward scripted coaching-type questions. All skills labs had specific scripts to use. For pillar 2, the skills labs were practicing delivering the 90-day program.

The main problem with the skills labs was that there was no oversight or feedback. So you never knew how you did or where you could improve. I find this very problematic because for 6 months, you practice-coach one another without ever knowing how you’re doing or how you could improve. How could you possibly get better or really learn this way?

In the past, someone from HCI would listen in on your calls and then give you feedback after your lab, but for some reason, they do not offer this anymore. Probably because it costs too much to listen in on 250 calls per week! (There were 500 people in my May 2017 cohort.)

So as for coaching practice, there really isn’t anything in BHC that’s any better than literally talking to a friend.

You do get 8 “success calls” with a “success coach” during the program. I only used 4 of mine because they were that awful. Success Calls consist of you, 3 other students, 1 success coach, and they last 50 minutes. Each person gets 10 minutes to be coached and then gets to hear the other people getting coached. I never found these useful. This was time to get coached on personal stuff, health or life related, or just to be coached through your massive insecurity about being a coach (everyone felt this, including me, because BHC poorly prepared us). But the success calls were too short and too public to really get very far or deep.

Part of the graduation requirement is that you walk 2 practice clients through the 90-Day Total Transformation program, so technically, this is also practice coaching. However, again, there is no oversight or feedback given, and since you only learn scripts and not actually how to coach, these sessions could be very hit or miss!

There were also “Office Hours,” a 2-hour bi-weekly call with Carey and Stacey, where they answer questions live. You may or may not get picked. I stopped listening in after a few months because they never proved useful and the questions from fellow students were stupid, no offense. People would ask about how to use the computer or just complain that they didn’t have time to do everything. There’s nothing worse than listening to someone literally cry about how insecure they feel about themselves (victimizing themselves) or how they have no money (probably the two biggest things people talked about). At first it was interesting and helpful to hear how these concerns were handled, but then it got redundant. I’m just not interested in hearing it over and over and it was not helpful to my development as a coach. (I quickly learned this career path is obviously not right for me!)

OVERALL LEARNING EXPERIENCE

Overall, the best thing that came out of my experience is that I “met” someone who is now a very close friend. We have not met in person, but we continue to talk online/phone weekly. So that’s cool. (She is no longer coaching either, and has similar feelings about the program.)

Other than that, the lack of actual teaching and one-on-one time with coaches made the whole experience feel like I was just being herded through a money-making machine for Carey and Stacey. Almost every week, they would “seed” us into their master training program and remind us of how great they are. Very little actual education was provided. It felt gross and I’m a little embarrassed I did this program at all.

HCI LIVE EVENT EXPERIENCE

To be honest, I left halfway through the first day. The event was a total waste of time and money. It is one huge sales pitch for their master training. I would never recommend this event or go to another one. It was the worst “conference” I have ever been to. Not a SINGLE educational component. You wouldn’t think it possible, but literally the entire thing was a huge scam. Maybe by now, you’re starting to notice this trend about BHC? Yeah. Save your money.

SUMMARY OF PROS AND CONS

Pros:

  • 100% online
  • Potentially meet like-minded people in private Facebook group
  • CCE Accredited
  • Short: 6 months, but you have a year to finish
  • You can watch powerpoint videos in double-time (2X) to get it over with!
  • Excellent business and marketing material

Cons:

  • Nothing is science-backed, or at least no evidence is provided
  • You never learn “psychology of habit change,” as promised
  • You never learn any neuroscience, as promised
  • The “success calls” are the only one-on-one you get, and you just get 10 minutes
  • Expensive at $4,500
  • No one-on-one teaching or oversight
  • All lectures are powerpoint style (YAWN)
  • You never meet your teachers or have actual interaction with them
  • You never get feedback about your coaching from a trained coach
  • You only learn scripts

KEY TAKEAWAYS

Save your money. Read Co-Active Coaching (THE BIBLE of coaching books) if you are interested in being a coach. I learned more from that book than I did from the entire 6-months I “studied” with Health Coach Institute. If there is one coaching book to read, it would be that one.

If you are interested in health coaching specifically, then just brush up on your nutrition online as well. For nutrition book ideas, I have a book list you might be interested in. I also completed the much better Plant-Based Nutrition Certification through eCornell, which I review here.

Health coaching is a sales job. Know that going into it. If you plan to have a private practice, you will be selling yourself. Constantly. There’s no way around it. You will also probably not make a lot of money because at the end of the day, hardly anyone hires a personal health coach. And the people who need it most can’t afford it. Keep this in mind. It’s an uphill battle that you can technically win, but for me, the effort just wasn’t worth it.

If you choose to find employment as a health coach, you will be LUCKY to make $40,000 a year with a company (before taxes). The pay is total shit. Prepare for that. I was paid $20 per hour but only given 6 hours per week. And I considered myself lucky to have an actual job doing this.

Have you completed this certification course? What did you think? I would love to hear about your experience! If you have any other questions, post in the comments below and I will answer 🙂

Thanks for reading and best wishes on your journey!

Please remember this is my personal opinion. Many other graduates loved the program, so check out the comments section for other perspectives. Maybe HCI is exactly what you need right now, so I encourage you to gather as many perspectives as you can. Just because it was wrong for me doesn’t mean it’s wrong for everyone.

Namaste 🙂

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124 thoughts on “Health Coach Institute (BHC Program): an honest review”

  1. I’m happy I came across your review!
    I would have been super disappointed if I had signed up and found out the content was very basic. I’ve taken down your book recommendations so I’ll be starting there. Thank you very much! =)

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    1. I started this program back in January and it wasn’t long before I started to wonder about this program and the actual content or lack of content we were learning. I didn’t come into this program because I wanted to coach about nutrition primarily because I feel the market is over saturated and many of the people out there saying they are a coach have little to no real training and do no appear credible to me. I really wanted more of the life coaching part.

      I read a lot of the posts in the FB group and I am perplexed by many and I don’t even understand they many of them are tying to do. Most don’t seem to be having success only a select few and much of what they say isn’t what I would want to hear as a client.

      I wish I would have chosen a different program for sure. I have a Master’s in Nursing and was hoping to augment my nursing to provide an integrative approach to healthcare and not all about nutrition. I don’t think most of the people in this program have the tools they need to truly coach for success long term.

      I have not done much in the last few month since I started a new full time job that is extremely time consuming. I just need to try and do the work to get through the program. I don’t see the value in the labs when there is no one helping with those, it’s like novice leading a Novice. I have spent many year as a nurse educator working to improve health and this is holistically not just from a medication perspective.

      I wanted the life coaching part since this is where I really feel I want to be as an addition to my nursing. I see so many of the people on the FB struggeling like some of them seem to not even know how to have a conversation with people, they seem to want to venture into areas I don’t think they are qualified to coach on and its obvious.

      Well I guess at this point I just need to check off the box’s and be done with it.

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      1. Thanks for the comment. And wow, sounds like you’re in a similar situation I was in. I’m so sorry to hear you’re having this experience. What is your plan moving forward? Have you had access to the life coaching part yet?

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  2. Ash,
    I appreciate the candid and honest review, It is good to understand all sides before making any decision. Even after reading the reviews, I am excited about the opportunities and possibilities of health coaching and what this program can provide for me. I have my business plan and how to generate the leads to obtain clients already coming together. I am looking primarily for the coaching component and practice with asking the questions that go deep. A friend of mine actually recommended Co-Active coaching program, but there program is even more expensive and doesn’t appear to have the online component and there are no trainings anywhere near me so I would be forced to travel to participate. You mentioned that reading the Co-Active Coaching book was extremely helpful, which I had already planned to do. Do you have experience with any of their training programs? My friend was able to have her program paid by her employer because it directly related to her job. I don’t have that luxury as I am in the process of changing careers.

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    1. Cindy, Have you completed the HCI program? I am considering the program. It is more affordable than many I have looked at. But I am mainly interested in doing “life” coaching….not so much nutrition. The office person told me they include life coaching in the program…..it’s included in the price. What did you like about it? What did you dislike about it?

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      1. Hey Debi– I did/looked at the life coaching part of HCI (my class was the first class to have access to it, so maybe it has since changed?) and was not at all impressed. It felt like of slapped on at the end, not a really well thought out program. Just my two cents!

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      2. Debi, I finished HCI and did the Life Coaching Program. I found the program much more helpful than the author of this review. I am now coaching. Most of my clients are life coaching clients, and I feel totally prepared to deal with them from everything that I learned. I learned a lot about coaching during the health coaching component, which I can easily with my life coaching clients. Let me know if you want any further info. I would agree that the Life Coaching program is boring. There is a lot of good info in there, but the host is boring.

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    2. Hey Cindy! Thanks for your comment. It sounds like you have a great plan to move forward and that you are passionate about the field. Awesome! I do not personally have experience with other coaching programs, however I have also heard that the Co-Active coaching program is well worth it, especially if you are sure this is what you want to be doing. I like to think of education as an investment more than an expense, but obviously cost can be a huge factor in choosing a program. I might read the book and see what you think… but if learning coaching techniques is your primary goal, I do not feel comfortable recommending HCI for that purpose. Best of luck!

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  3. good day Ash, wow I a now more confused than ever, I have narrowed it down (in my mind) to Dr Sears or Duke, would you have any feedback on either of these institutes for Health Coach training? kindest regards A

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    1. Thanks for your comment 🙂 I wish I had experience or knowledge about those programs, however I am not familiar enough with either to give feedback. Good luck! Wish I could be more helpful!

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  4. Hey Ash

    I my word, I cannot believe it! I wish I found your review sooner. I felt the same way about BHC and then I went to HCI Live and bloody well signed up for their graduate program. Shit, I was in such a bad place when I did it and wasn’t thinking straight. Super embarrassed and feel so annoyed I have wasted so much money on this! I don’t think I can get out of the course but I am going to fight it as much as I can. What kind of “school” doesn’t let you drop out?? Bullshit…

    Just shows you they do not believe in their own program.

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    1. Omg!

      This is me right now. I’m passed the 30 days to decide whether this is the right program for me (bullshit because they don’t allow you to access everything immediately.) so, now I am stuck in a program & now I know I do not want to pursue Health Coaching.

      All of this seems like such a scam! I’m so mad that I cannot drop out.

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      1. Oh no! I’m so sorry to hear you’re in the middle of this. What field are you coming from? If not health coaching, what are you hoping to do next?

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  5. Thank you for this post!! Like many have mentioned already, I have come up empty trying to find info about HCI outside of their website. I’m currently taking the Holistic Health Nutritonist course with American Fitness Professionals and Associated (AFPA), but was looking to get a more “formal” program for the coaching aspect. It was killing me to think of spending $4500! My intuition with this one has been sounding an alarm every time I seem to revisit doing the program. I guess I kind of feel like I don’t know where to go from here at this point. I am obsessed with health and wellness and really would love to do a career shift. I know I don’t want to go into business for myself and clammor to get clients, something like corporate wellness would be awesome but I don’t know how to get there. :-/ Any chance you have advice on that one? I’m also taking the MBG Functional Wellness Guide program and loving all the info, but it isn’t intended to be a certificate for business, and isn’t accredited. Just mostly for personal knowledge. Anyway, appreciate the review and if you have advice on working for companies in health and wellness, I’d appreciate it…..certificates typically needed, etc. Thanks!

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    1. Hey Jenn, do you have a BA degree in anything health-related? I imagine that getting a job in corporate wellness would require something on your resume that points to your skills/knowledge. However, with that said, you don’t have to have “official” certification to do this work. You can craft your resume in a way that highlights what you know. I might set up a personal website highlighting what your services would/could be. Could add to your legitimacy in finding a job doing this work. Hope that helps! If you do not yet have your BA, maybe look into University of The People (www.uopeople.edu). It’s a tuition-free accredited university that offers a BA in Health Sciences. Could be worth looking into. 🙂

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  6. I was already 1 foot into this Coaching Program, and then I found your review… I’m not gonna do it.. I saw your mention of the University of People.. I’m checking them out now, I’d love to get your opinion on the value you are getting.. what do you think of it, are you still doing it, how far along are you?
    Thank you for saving me lots of $$ and time..
    Warm hellos from Florida!
    Maya

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    1. Thanks for your comment! So glad my review helped you make the decision you think is right for you! Regarding UoP, I should write a review on them. Ultimately, I think it is worth it if you want to persue a degree for free/minimal investment. The textbooks/texts used are kind of old (10+ years outdated), meaning many of the examples are antiquated, but the general principles are still there. I ended up quitting after 2 classes because I no longer need/want an MBA for my goals, however I would have stuck with it had I found it a necessary next step professionally. The most frustrating part of the UoP experience was that many of the assignments are peer-graded, meaning it can be hit or miss when it comes to how you do in a class. I ended up getting a B+, which I am happy with, but I “failed” a handful of assignments because peers scored me really low for some odd reason. That just came down to quality control. I will write a more complete review later, thanks for the inspiration! If you subscribe to my blog, you can stay on top of that. I recently turned my blog into only reviews (meaning there are only 3 public posts), so subscribing will not mean you get frequent emails lol.

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      1. Ash! I so appreciate your fast response! I just subscribed and will look for updates, and yes! Definitely write a review of UoP.. it’s so helpful to read a first hand experience & honest review… I would be so curious to read about your goals, and why MBA is something you no longer want & need.

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      2. This is all helpful info. We need more “colleges” that are affordable and worth it. The bottom line is, you are paying for a piece of paper, because so many want college graduates. You really learn everything ON THE JOB!! It’s all B.S. Is this school legit as far as being able to say you got a bachelors degree?

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        1. Agree! This is definitely not a bachelor’s degree, or actual college. It’s just a certificate, which may or may not mean anything, depending on who you ask.

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  7. HELP! I signed up for the March 2018 program and since beginning have felt totally lost. This program is not at all what I thought it would be, coming from a psychology background. There is no science to back them up and most of the stuff I already feel like I know. I have a call with the Student Services Department tomorrow to talk about getting out of the course and don’t know what to do/ if they even let people out. I feel so embarrassed that I signed up for this class and have signed up to pay over $5,000 for something I don’t even believe in that just seems like a scheme.

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    1. Ugh, I am so sorry to hear you’re not enjoying the program and that it’s not what you thought it would be. I totally feel your pain, girl! Did the student services department help at all? I remember there being a 30-day cancellation period, during which time I almost quit myself, bud I do not remember there being a way to get out of the program after that 30-days. Hope you get it sorted! Thanks for your comment.

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  8. Hey Ash, i ‘m glad i found this review – i was literally just about to sign up for this course. I have also completed the Plant Based Nutrition Course which i really enjoyed and after that I did the Rouxbe FOK course. I mostly want to keep learning about healthy (wfpb) living and things that support this endeavor. IF this one day leads to a way to earn some money, that would be great, but i’m not working towards a specific goal like that right now. Do you know of any other courses that might be relevant? I feel like we might be on the same wavelength!
    Thank you for your helpful review!

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    1. Thanks for your comment; I’m glad you found my review helpful. I don’t really know of other courses, as my main form of study and learning is now books (check out my book list in the menu–I have a few good ones related to health/nutrition). Coursera and EdX have free online courses, which I love, but I don’t know how extensive their nutrition offerings are. However, EdX has a course called “The Ethics of Eating” which absolutely blew my mind. Highly recommend that! And it’s FREE!!! yay!

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  9. Hi Ash, I appreciate your review of this program since I was seriously considering joining it mostly for the “Done for you docs” they offer in each module. Do you think they’re worth it at all? Thanks!

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    1. I don’t think the done for you docs are worth the tuition. If that’s all you’re looking for, there are Health coaches who make an entire living out of selling plans/docs/programs etc to other health coaches. Maybe Google that? Hope that helps, thanks for the comment!

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      1. Hi there,

        So I too am looking to make a real career out of being a Health and Wellness Coach. I have a background in health science (university trained) and also qualifications as a Personal Trainer. I am about to start a Life Coaching course with “Beautiful You Coaching Academy” and it seems great. However I was almost about to sign up to HCI or IIN for the nutrition studies!!! I am not looking for more coaching training right now so I don’t care about the coaching content, but I am looking for suggestions now on good quality, up-to-date, evidence-based and holistic health/nutrition courses……Any suggestions would be welcomed!!

        Also, I too was thinking about still doing IIN or CHI just for all the “done for you” documents etc…any comments on these from anyone? Also, I’d be interested in getting my hands on them for a look if anyone is willing to pass them on?? (Not sure if that is legal or not).

        Thanks!

        Sarah 🙂

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        1. Hey Sarah, thanks for your comment! Have you looked into eCornell Plant-Based Nutrition course? I wrote a review on it as well (scroll below to find a link to that review). I am not sure if plant-based is where you want to take your practice, but it is an excellent science-backed course. It could be right for you! I do not still have the “done for you docs” from HCI, so unfortunately I cannot share beyond what I’ve already posted in this review. Hope that helps!

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  10. I am so relieved I found your review. I am just in the initial stages of exploring the life/health coach road and which route would be best to take.
    Thank you for taking the time to share your experience ⚘

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  11. THANK YOU JESUS!!! I must be in crazy mode from being on day four of a eat-nothing-even-remotely-fantastic diet…because I was seriously considering this. So glad I found you! I’ve already read co-active coaching and basically do life coaching at work. I am starting a 6-month mindset neuroscience presenter training. Plus I have good intuition, common sense and a natural knack for this stuff. But everyone was all “make sure you are licensed. Don’t trust those idiots who have only read a book.” And by “everyone” I mean coaching schools… so yeah. Of course training def has it’s place… especially if people start out so clueless they got anything out of hci. But I was a little leary when 1- Before they did this one was an actress and one was a grocery store cake taster!? 2- The only reviews were people excited because they got their first client. I didn’t read any that talked about a thriving sustainable practice. I feel like I should be sending you a fruit basket or something! Xo

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    1. Hahaha! Thank you for this comment! I laughed out loud. Good to know you’re making the sensible choice and following your gut (and your logic!). With your background, I doubt HCI would teach you much (if anything).

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  12. Hey Ash,

    You’re a crack up. Thanks so much for this, I just spent all morning chuckling away while reading your post and the comments. Definitely has narrowed the field for my interest in studying health coaching.

    I was introduced to this path through Chris Kresser and his upcoming Health Coaching 101 one-year programme. If anyone else is thinking the same, gimme a shout.

    I’m at a point trying to figure out whether I really wanna do this or if it’s just more of stage we all go through while trying to optimize our own healthy lifestyles.

    Cheers again

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    1. Thanks for your comment! I’m glad you enjoyed the review 🙂 that’s a really good question you’re asking yourself: if this is for personal development and part of that process, or an actual investment in your professional future. Good luck on your search and on your path!

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    2. Sam, Thank you for mentioning this! I am late to the application process for the Kresser Institute but am applying today. I only learned of it by your comment here when I came across this post yesterday. This feels like a much better fit for me as I am on a paleo diet and want to engage with that and functional medicine but nothing else out there felt quite right. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Are you doing the program?

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      1. Hey Sybil,
        Glad it lead you there, Chris is on the leading-edge in my opinion.
        I’ve decided to leave it a year, see how the program goes and to follow the reviews and graduates. I would’ve loved to, but the financial commitment was a bit too heavy for me at this time. Would be great to keep in touch, I’m sure if you go for it you’ll get the good juice.
        Best regards,
        Sam

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  13. Hi Ash, I posted a comment with my experience with HCI but it hasn’t been shared. I thought it was respectful though my experience was different than yours. I love your writing style and appreciate your experience. However, I was hoping that my honest experience would be shared as well. Many of our lives have been completely transformed, and while I know HCI is not the right program for everyone, it is the right program for many. If there were pieces of my comment that you found offensive or didn’t think were fair for your readers to see, please let me know. I would be happy to make adjustments. I want to honor your blog and what you deem to be appropriate. However, those who believed the program is right for them but suddenly hold themselves back due to fear after reading your experience, could benefit from having access to other experiences in the same thread.

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    1. All comments on my blog are automatically published. I haven’t screened or deleted any of them, so maybe it didn’t go through? Either way, I agree that readers benefit from hearing both sides! Please do share, thank you!

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  14. “There’s nothing worse than listening to someone literally cry about how insecure they feel about themselves or how they have no money (probably the two biggest things people talked about). I’m just not interested in hearing that shit and it was not helpful to my development as a coach.”

    I’m curious what your expectations were when you went into study coaching? Were you expecting to be working with people who have everything together, have no insecurities and are experiencing no pain in their life regarding their problems?

    If this is ‘not helpful to your development as a coach’, then it seems coaching is not an industry suited to your temperament, and your review of the ‘Health Coaching Institute’ makes total sense given your comment on people and coaching in general.

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    1. Chris, I gotta step in here as I feel you are bringing in a pretty negative/judgey vibe to this thread. Ash was giving an honest review of her experience (which I appreciate and found extremely helpful- Thank you Ash!). She wasn’t in a coaching role at that time she made that statement but rather a classmate. Personally speaking, I WOULD expect those who are pursuing professional coaching to have their lives (mostly) together. I would also expect them not to make negative posts on other people’s blogs.

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      1. xoxo thanks for the support, Jeanette! I agree that those going through a coaching program ought to have it together, at least for the most part, in order to be in the right headspace to truly learn how to coach. Time and place for everything!

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  15. Just to offer a completely different response, I am finding HCI to offer powerful information, support, and vision. No program is perfect. I’ve explored way too many programs to count and found HCI to be the most transparent with what they do. I actually left a clinical counseling program to move forward as a health/life/transformation coach. The phone calls from Student Engagement, Coach Success Team, Office Hours, and more have been vital. Yes, I have already done a lot of reading and studying in other areas, but HCI has been an important part of my journey. I agree that the teaching via slides can be cumbersome, but I print the transcripts, take notes, and get creative with the material. I’ve been on the phone with many students who are completing the course and already working with paying clients. There is a positive but realistic atmosphere within the program. This is just my experience…

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    1. Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s always great to hear about positive experiences with HCI. I think it helps those who are looking for programs to consider all perspectives, so yours is a valuable one! Especially here, where I pretty much slam them lol. Thanks again for your comment! Much appreciated!

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  16. To answer the few questions about some of their grads listing IIN on their websites and not HCI…some of them are grads from Holistic MBA, Carey and Stacey’s business before HCI. Holistic MBA provided business and coach training for coaches and attracted a lot of IIN grads. So some of their grads are IIN students that then attended Stacy and Carey’s HMBA program and graduated from those trainings before Stacey and Carey began their own health coach certification program. I have not been to any of their events since they started HCI (because I’m an IIN grad, their approach no longer appealed to me since I’m already a health coach) so I can’t comment at all about the HCI programs. However I went to many of their HMBA events and completed several coach trainings with them. I loved the coaching content and also really enjoy the positive like-minded people that they attract into their programs.

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  17. I literally was in their zoom preliminary meeting and just left because of this very honest review. Whilst they chatted, I googled and saw this. All I can say is, I felt like I was watching those YouTube videos that tell you the secrets to keeping a man; 5 easy steps but they never get into the steps but get close only to take you for ANOTHER loop. In the end you realize it’s $19.99 for advice you could have read from the back of a Madamoiselle magazine at a newspaper stand. Thanks for this! You just saved a girl not only her money but something more valuable: her time.

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    1. Haha! Yes, that is the perfect description of what’s going on there. Early in the course, HCI accidentally sent everyone in the course an invite to that Zoom meeting…. embarrassing for them, because we all participated and watched them sell us the program we were already in… It should have been my red flag, especially when Stacey “gave” us 3 free days to “see” the program, a standard thing they do. And those 3 “free days” are more video sales pitches. It’s actually kind of amazing how elaborate it all is. They must make a killing.

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  18. I’ve had the opposite experience, much like Crystal. It’s great that you provide this insight for benefit of the savvy consumer. If I may share my take, here it is. Personally, it is all what you make it and what you choose to put into it. It is also important to have expectations clear from the start. We don’t like something if it falls short of our expectations. If you have an idea of what the program “should be” or “should have,” I’d ask all those questions from the start if you plan to enroll. Nutritional knowledge is the easier of the two when you look at nutrition versus coaching skills. Having my masters in counseling and psychology I can say they do indeed teach the behavior change techniques. They are masked or people do not realize that because they do so via application right away rather than starting with Bloom’s taxonomy stage 1. Feedback on the coaching from someone other than classmates would take this up a notch. For sure. There is no dispute there. Fortunately, I’ve been through coaching programs my whole life, that I don’t find it a hurdle. I feel prepared and that it has been a good investment for me and my goals. The coaching skills component exceeds what I found in other programs by far. And nutritional training should not be a one and done component ever. Science changes too much. There are plenty of pros and cons with anything. Health coaching is still new. I haven’t heard or seen any alternatives that are better either.

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    1. Thanks so much for your comment! You make excellent points and it’s awesome you had a good experience. I think you are right that I probably should have checked my expectations. They were out of line with reality and it’s probably largely what contributed to my negative experience. Thanks again for sharing- I’m sure your insight will help other readers of this review 😘

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  19. Thank yo so much for this review. I just got off the telephone with a representative from HCI. Looking forward to my years after retirement from my present career, i thought i’d look into what can i do later. Their add passed through my IG feed. After speaking with the representative who went over the basics, I did some research on their reviews and this site was one of the hits I got back on Google. Thank you for saving me $4,500. Unfortunately, over the last 2 years I have fallen to one of these “qualifying type” coaching opportunities that did not pan out. I am interested in a second career as a health coach, but after reading your blog, this may not be the route for me. Again thanks much.

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    1. Thanks so much for your comment! I’m glad you found my review helpful. I know what you mean about feeling the need for a qualification. It’s good you recognize this about yourself. I’m definitely guilty of that myself. Good luck with your exciting life transition!

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  20. Thanks for this. I’m about to speak to the Clarity Coach and sign up for March but now I’m confused. I was really hopeful that this wasn’t a scan coz everything they were saying is sounds so good and it already aligns with my lifestyle since I am a yoga teacher. I tried searching for reviews about the company/program but couldn’t find anything but their reviews from BBB which would make them legit right? I was so excited to start the program but now I’m having mixed feelings.

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    1. You can always sign up and see what you think! You have 30 days to cancel for a full refund, so it can’t hurt. Feel free to use my referral code to save some $$$. Read the comments above…some other people have shared their experiences with HCI. It’s definitely not for everyone, but some do like it. It really depends on what you’re looking for in a program, and how much experience/knowledge you already have in this area. Hopefully that helps. Good luck!

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  21. Wow girl, thanks so much for this! One of the best reviews I’ve read about anything, and you just helped me save thousands of dollars! HCI originally popped up as an ad after I was researching other nutrition programs, that’s always how they get ya haha. Loved how you presented their course information, and where else to (better) find the same information. I’ve now got a huge book list going that I’m excited to get into! Thanks for helping me choose, I’ve decided to go with Edison Institute of Nutrition. 🙂

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  22. I have a question about the cancellation. I am not even 20 days in and it’s not what i thought it was going to be. I’m not happy. I sent an email to the support center to cancel like the terms and conditions said to. I got an email back that said a ticket has been opened. I have no idea what this means. Do You have any information on how I cancel or am I doing it right?
    Amanda Medina

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    1. Thanks for your comment. A ticket being opened sounds like an automated reply from their software that manages customer service. If you don’t hear back in a few days, I’d call them directly. Or you can just call them right away. Since you have to cancel before 30 days, I’d probably personally call ASAP to make sure it goes through. Hope that helps and good luck!

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  23. Thank you Ashley for speaking frankly and sharing your thoughts. I found this really interesting to read a review that was so in contrast to my experience. I really do feel it is important to hear all sides though so I kept reading until the end. Respectfully, I wanted to share my own experience as you have requested. I was a graduate of BHC March 2016 and received the health and life coaching certificate through them. I also attended 2 live conferences, SanDiego and Dallas, and chose not to move forward with their mastery program. Interestingly I have similar results in my business compared to many of the mastery students (I keep in touch with many of them). My personal experience was that this program, Stacey and Carey, and other peers have transformed my life more than my MBA ($50K+) so I am most grateful. I got to really look within to my subconscious blocks and unblock areas that I had never realized were holding me back. I agree though, this is not for everyone and if you are looking for the criticisms, like anything, you will find them. I recognized that I needed to show up VERY open to the process, and I am so much happier about my life since I have left the corporate world working 15+ years in HR. I’m thrilled that I get to help others get to their goals and my clients are getting results. Just another perspective to consider in case it is helpful. – Crystal Young

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    1. Hey Crystal, thanks so much for sharing your experience! This makes me so happy that you had a positive experience and were in the right mindset to receive what they offered. More power to you, for sure! Thanks again for sharing 🙂

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  24. I am so glad that Clarity Coach was late to the call! While I waited, I searched for HCI reviews and found yours! What a godsend you are! Thank you for saving me money, time and disappointment. While, I thought their delivery was odd and somewhat unprofessional, I was ready to join their next cohort! They surely have the marketing aspects down pat! I also suspect they are stoked on the easy money they make. I will continue to search for an accredited program that will deliver.

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    1. Glad this helped! Although, I believe someone else commented on IIN in the comments here…had a similar experience to HCI. Maybe read thru the comments for more on that. I cannot speak of it personally.

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  25. hi,
    i currently am in the stage of researching different health coaching programs- IIN and HCI were at the top of my list. health coaching seems like a perfect fit for me, but i am struggling with where i should be going for the certificate. does anyone know the best place for this? i have to pay for my schooling and dropping $5000 on something that is a complete waste is something i’m really trying to avoid. however, online schooling and something that i could get done quickly is very suitable for my lifestyle right now. i have no college degree, no background in health/business/marketing (i’ve been struggling with what i’ve wanted to do with my life for years now) so i am just trying to find some guidance on what to do. would hci really not be a good investment? even for someone just starting out? or are there better options? would a health coach even be worth it career wise? any input would be extremely helpful.
    thank you!

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    1. Read through the comments on this blog post- several others have mentioned some great alternatives to IIN and HCI. As for health coaching as a career, it is doable, but it is a LOT of work to get clients. In theory, the career sounds awesome, but in practice, the job is mostly lead generation, marketing, networking etc. Unless you get a job working for a company or organization, in which case the pay is very low and you’ll definitely need either a certification or a college degree. In my opinion, $5k is a lot to dropping something so uncertain. If you need college degree, check out http://www.uopeople.edu. Its a tuition-free university.i am currently doing their MBA program (so far I LOVE it, but I’ll write a thorough review on that later, after I have a few more classes under my belt). But I believe they do have a bachelor’s in Health Science. Could be a good alternative to a coaching program that isn’t really worth much. Hope that helps! Also, I’d recommend reading some books on the topics you’re interested in coaching.

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  26. Wow, thanks! I was seriously considering signing up for the HCI course. Before doing so, I decided to go online to check out reviews and found yours! Not many out there other than HCI reviews on their website. Glad I found you – dodged a bullet and would have been pissed with spending a lot of money! Thanks!

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    1. So happy you found my review! I couldn’t find any before I signed up either, which is exactly why I wrote this. Best wishes as you continue to research! Maybe read through some of the other comments on this post…several people have shared good alternatives to HCI. Xo

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  27. Thank you so much for all the incredible feedback on this blog. I was wondering if anyone has tried out the eCornell online certificate program. They offer 40 different online certificate programs including Nutrition.Just wondering how legit it is and if its worth considering?

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  28. For those of you who are researching…here are two that may be of interest:

    Dr. Sears – though sometimes controversial because he’s a holistic MD- is cheaper to get started ($2K range) and you can specialize in different areas, and if I remember correctly, you can get real, honest, advanced training, plus a real website with portal and ongoing support after graduation. I don’t recall how long each specialization is – but this program has been around for decades. I also did talk with one graduate who was a teacher by day and she said it was a good program for her. It sounds rather basic, but people can help those who need guidance for how to eat if they’ve never been healthy. I never did connect with the second. For an overall program, it looks good, though I’d like something more holistic personally.

    Institute of Functional Medicine Coaching Academy. (Around $6K). Cohorts are about 2x per year. Next one is in September. Program has been going for about a year. The program itself is a YEAR and is created by MDs, PhDs (Psychologists, etc.) including Dr. Mark Hyman. You can ask to go through an actual coaching session as a patient/client with one of their student coaches to see if it makes sense. I’m talking now with the student coach. The kicker is, you have to have some sort of Allied Health or Professional Health background, be a massage trainer, personal trainer, yoga instructor, etc. Or, get permission.

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      1. Thanks for taking time to reply to everyone’s posts. Really great!

        I also follow Eben Pagan – his team is super. He’s genuine. He’s not a workaholic. His coaching program is designed for ANY niche. It’s MUCH cheaper than all the others, he has a payment plan (with bonuses for full payment), master marketing strategies, AND a full money back guarantee – as long as you finish. Even if you cancel, you keep part of it. It’s only 10 weeks, you get certified for real, plus 12 months of additional support …he’s realistic in saying you get started in 10 weeks (after certification) but there’s more to practice to become a Master Coach. Here’s the link if you’re interested:

        https://presentations.virtualcoach.com/2018-get-started/replay

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      1. Absolutely- love your name, travellingbabe! I’ve missed traveling! Hope to get back to it this year.

        Wish I’d had this site before I invested in a “well known” business coaching program 2 years ago.

        Good of it – I’m working on a company to create T-shirts for elephant causes.
        Love Ash’s yoga mat cause for that reason. I’ve got it bookmarked to buy my next mat from you, Ash.

        And, I also recommend- Yanik Silver- Evolved Enterprise – you can give AND make great money (think Tom’s shoes as one model). Can work for services and products.

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  29. OMG Ash – you are so freakin’ awesome!! I am supremely grateful for your review!!

    Something in my gut kept telling me to wait. I wanted to believe it wasn’t crap. I wanted to get started on something. Last year I listened to their “sales pitch” ahem… “info session”? Actress Carey was out so someone filled in – AWFUL. Very unprofessional, no real substance.

    I later talked to Valerie — she’s nice, and kind of fluffed it over like it was no big deal. It made me think maybe I was making too much out of it.

    Still I waited – thank God.

    A couple of weeks ago Rosemary called me to see if I was still interested – what a flake!! She had NO CLUE about anything I asked. Again, I thought, well maybe she’s just not good with people or Q & A.

    First Pillar should be: TRUST YOUR GUT!!

    Instead, I checked out the 72-hour sample program. What a joke. It’s so basic – it’s like – hey breathe good air, don’t drink toilet water. Sorry – getting pretty crass myself. I actually fell asleep during most of it, and only got jolted awake when Carey did one of her loud cackles. Not even a creative slide presentation.

    Another RED FLAG came when Rosemary said I couldn’t get in touch with graduates – and they had none in my area. But that I could reach out to people AFTER I signed up. Hmmm.

    BTW, I just calculated how much they made in revenue on the 500 people who enrolled in your cohort – at $4500 a pop: Drum roll please… $2,250,000 – that’s $2.25 MILLION!!!!! Where’s Mini-Me when you need him?

    And they can’t make an appearance in the training modules or make it professional?
    Plus, what happened to all of the Nutrition Experts they claim are part of the program?

    This definitely sounds like IIN. I ran from that one – grateful I didn’t sign up. Their sample program was Joshua Rosenthal – founder – giving a welcome speech to a live group. Huh?

    I kept thinking I must be missing something. So many people I know either personally or ran into online had gone through their training. Some actually said it was good – but I’ve no idea how much knowledge they already had – I personally geek out on this stuff. For most people, they failed at it unless they also had additional training or a different health/wellness background going into it, or sold additional products and had a great online presence. It’s like The Emperor’s New Clothes. Everyone was just drinking the Kool-Aid (sorry if I offend anyone who did take the courses).

    I’ve made plenty of huge mistakes myself – one I’m paying for still. They make it sound so ah-mazing.
    It’s almost hypnotic, and they do it again and again to loads of people.

    This makes me MAD- there are way too many scammers out there who hide behind computers and make huge money for crap. Though I’m surprised Stacey and Carey actually had a “sales pitch” for their live event too. Pretty damn ballsy. Reminds me of those House Flipping “FREE” Seminars at hotels. That is just wrong. I’m seriously contemplating how to start a whistle-blowing site with the tagline: “You can run but you can’t hide” – lol.

    That’s lazy, and honestly – stealing.

    Thank you for offering your thoughts and a place to offer ours. Hope I didn’t take up too much “real estate” here – I’m just disappointed the program didn’t pan out – but jumping for joy that I found out in time.

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    1. Ha I LOVE your comment, thank you! So glad you listened to your gut on this one. You certainly saved yourself a lot of money and disappointment.

      And haha I totally went to one of those “free” house flipping seminars about 5 years ago because I wanted to see how scammy they really were (it didn’t disappoint lol, so scammy!).

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  30. Hey there – I’m just waiting for my call from someone at HCI (so that I can ask questions about the program) and doing some review searches and came across your blog. Thank-you! I have a M.Sc. in Personalised Nutrition and I’m looking for a program that will complete the coaching aspect of my studies so I can start working as a nutritionist/health coach. Have you come across any good programs for completing the coaching/practical side of this career?

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    1. I am just reading all of this for the first time, as I have been looking in to health coaching. You may want to check out the National Society of Health Coaches. I started looking in to their certification, and after reading this blog I will definitely return my focus in that direction! Their certification costs a fraction of what these other courses charge. They are only for health care and allied health care practitioners. Their program appears to focus only on the coaching aspect, because you have already spent hours and hours learning your health care field’s educational requirements. I am a nurse their certification seems to make much more sense to me, although I still have research to do.

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  31. Your blog has been extremely helpful. I had come so close to registering for the course. Better business Bureau has only good things to say about Stacey and Carey’s health coach institute. It sounds like a large investment for nothing in return.

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  32. Thank you Ash! This was a great review and it definitely mirrors my feelings as well. I just started in December and the honeymoon phase is nearly over for me. Thanks to this review I just canceled my travel plans to their conference. You saved me a ton of cash. I’ll finish the course, and I’ll definitely take your advice on the other sources to read to fill in the gaps. I’m still very passionate about becoming a health coach. I wish I had read your review before plunking down $4500, but I’ll chalk this up to lesson learned. I have met a ton of wonderful people on line through this experience and so I’ll take the good with the bad and keep it moving. Thanks again for this valuable review.

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    1. You are welcome- I’m glad you found it valuable. Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m sorry to hear you’re having a similar experience. Real bummer. But the fact that you’re still interested in the health coach track is positive!

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      1. Can I just say that this part of your blog had me rolling ” Carey and Stacey are very self-congratulatory people and after 6 months, you really want them to shut the fuck up about it.” LOL. I DIED.

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  33. I agree with much of what you say here. A few big disappointments for me: 1.The lack of real content when it comes to nutrition. 2. I spent an entire weekend in what amounted to a very long commercial to sign up for how to REALLY be a Health Coach (wasn’t that what I already paid for?) Side note: When I researched a couple of the folks they produced on stage (at the live event) who were making the big bucks, one was a “High Performance” Personal Trainer – which is code for charging a ton of money to yuppies in New York. 3rd. I was told we would get a website at completion. That was a joke. It was a terrible site and I ended up spending hours of my time and money creating my own.

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    1. Susan,

      Thanks for your comment and for sharing your experience. I’m sorry to hear your experience was similarly disappointing. Yes–that “free” 72 hour access to their site did turn out to be promotional content that did little other than selling us the program. I’d almost forgotten about that! Thanks for sharing, so others can be more informed when weighing options.

      I am curious– did you end up pursuing this as a career? Personally, I am no longer in the industry.

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  34. I stared IIN but got out int he first week. They have a similar curriculum. I was able to browse the 1st pillar. But all of the lectures are via video. No hardcore tests, which I found odd (but not upset about). There are quizzes and tests which are not graded… odd again. How do you get feedback if no one is looking at your work? Most of the information I already knew since I have been researching plant-based nutrition on my own. You can also find the same info on youtube. The cost for this 1-year course is also 5k. But, there was a $500 if you did not want the iPad they were offering. Yeah, Ok. I did not need an Ipad. Nice Marketing tactic though. Oh, and they also offered a website that you would eventually pay for. None of this sat well with me. My intuition told me to get out. What they are offering is not worth $5000. Sorry for the rant. When you mentioned INN it struck a nerve and I just want people to be aware of what they are getting themselves into … from my perspective 🙂

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    1. Thanks for your comment! I have heard a similar review of IIN, but of course, I cannot speak from personal experience on that. Good thing you listened to your gut and decided not to continue with the program–I wish I’d done the same with HCI. Thanks again for sharing!

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  35. Thanks for the “raw” feedback… I have been searching online for ANY details on HCI and have found almost none, until you =)
    I got suspicious when on their website, under “Our Students” tab, they show pics and bio’s of a bunch of grads. I then separately searched for these “grad” websites, three of them said they graduated from Institute for Integrated Nutrition (IIN) and do not mention BHC or HCI… what is that about?
    BTW: if Pillar 4 was good, did you like the website they built for you? – Is this it????

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    1. Omg yes I totally forgot to mention that I did the same thing! I looked up all the grads and also noticed that nobody mentioned HCI on their websites, and instead talked about IIN. I should have listened to my gut on that one. Very weird.

      As for the website, they “give” it to you then you pay $39/month for it. No thanks! This is a free WordPress site. I didn’t even LOOK at the website they gave. But the time they released it, I was already totally over health coaching.

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      1. Is integrated nutrition better? I was looking at becoming a nutritionist to specialize in health coaching, as I am already a life coach and personal trainer. I saw that most nutrition programs are 4 years. I am certified in sports nutrition which is the basics of how the body works in eating and the FDA recommendations, and macros, etc. Cancers, and problems, etc. I found HCI and just finished their 72 hour sample program, but thinking the price tag is high. Haven’t done much research with Integrated nutrition though. Thanks for you input on HCI, it helps to have a point of view from someone who is not selling their program.

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        1. I cannot personally say one way or another about IIN, however, I met a woman last year who went through the IIN program and she had several complaints similar to mine of HCI. She said she finished the program feeling totally unprepared to coach, or even know how to coach. I wish I could be more helpful than that, but I hestiate to give advise on a program I do not have personal experience with. The title “nutritionist” does require an actual accredited degree in nutrition though, so a coaching program definitely does not qualify you for that official title. “Coach” is not currently a regulated term, but “nutritionist” is. If you want to be a nutritionist, then my understanding is that you need an actual degree, not just a certification. Hope that helps! Best wishes! xo

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    2. I used to be an Online Marketing Consultant back in 2012- this is where I sold but did not provide the services personally. I know what a good website costs to have designed for you. It was a big factor for my decision to purchase the program. It was a huge disappointment a very low quality site and shame on me for not asking for a sample prior to my making the decision. However, they would not have been able to show an example because they sold the concept before one was ever designed.

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      1. I am so sorry to hear that! I never even asked for my website because by then I was already so disappointed and had heard stories like yours. How did you end up making your website?

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  36. Oh my god! I have just finished Pillar 1 from the Dec 2017. How painful. So disappointed in the program. Very, very basic. Apart from the content I also found the online platform extremely clunky and not user friendly. I’ve got a business background in Sales, Biz Dev in Tech and have had a great interest in Health. I feel I joined one big group hug of broken people who need constant reconfirmation about everything they do. Definitely not worth the money. A course in nutrition combined with a life coaching course is a much better option if someone wants to be a Health Coach. I’m bored of this course, so tired of those boring PowerPoint slides which I’m just letting run in the background whilst I get on with my life accepting I’ve wasted a lot of money on that course…

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    1. I’m so so sorry you’re having the same disappointing experience! Is it too late to get your money back, or is your 30 day window over? Describing your “tribe mates” as a group of “broken people” is sadly spot on. That’s exactly how it seemed to me as well. I think HCI attracts (dare I say prey on?) women who are confused, lost, and at an unhealthy place in life. The best thing about the PowerPoint slides is that you can watch/listen to them in double time… That’s the only thing that got me through the goddamn course. Lol;

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